Some Objections to the proposed pub in Royal View


Some topics below might prove useful when composing your objection to this application. Choose what appeals to you , and if you're concerned about length it's probably best to err on the side of brevity.


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The RCV Objection




Prevention of crime and disorder

 

There is a history of drug-related activity in the Riverside area. A pub packed with drinkers and a live band are surely ideal conditions for drug suppliers' trade to flourish. Disorderly conduct on leaving the pub is bound to occur from time to time.

 

Prevention of public nuisance

 

The plan in the licence application shows a bar and cellar area but no kitchen, so the effects of drinking will not be mitigated by the provision of food. The plan indicates that the outisde area will be used as part of the application. Noise therefore is certain to create a serious and unacceptable nuisance in this otherwise quiet area. Many residents must sleep with windows open because of the level of heat insulation in their houses or apartments. it is likely that many will be disturbed and kept awake by voices raised in fun or in anger at turning out time. The licence application states that doors and windows will be kept closed to mitigate noise. It will be impossible to keep the 4 sets of doors closed as people need to enter and leave. Every time a door opens, there will be a new barrage of noise. Due to the shape of surrounding apartment blocks and walls along Elizabeth Parade, noise is likely to be amplified and travel round the site.The venue will want tables and chairs outside, so people will be drinking and smoking up to the park edge all day, with music coming out of the venue right into the heart of this tranquil community park and residential area. All this is quite simply inappropriate.

 

Protection of children

 

Inevitably dropped glass in the patio area and on the grass by the park will present a hazard to all and particularly to small children.

 

Public safety

 

There have been numerous deaths over the years of people who have fallen into the Avon and have been unable to get out. This is a particular hazard on the footpath to the east of the proposed establishment where there are no safety barriers. Anyone who fell in there, particularly if inebriated or at night, would have little chance of survival.

 

Tables and chairs on the patio would impede level access to the proposed dental surgery or force people with limited mobility close to the edge and the drop to park level.




Below are some topics you might like to consider for your submission


PUBLIC SAFETY.


The premises are very close to one of the few stretches of open riverside near the centre of Bath. If anyone gets into the water at this point, where the bank is cut down to river level, they will be swept downstream by the current to areas with high sheet piling wall where it is difficult to get out again.


There have been numerous deaths in recent years of people who fell into the water and were unable to get out. It is inappropriate to open a drinking establishment in this location.


There are already difficulties with delivery vans at Royal View. The addition of more heavy duty beer delivery vans will further add to the risk to pedestrians including vulnerable elderly and children given the absence of any clear pedestrian priority.


Backing a truck to the proposed delivery door of the premises will almost completely block the access for pedestrians particularly to those with limited mobility to access the Park.


Tables and chairs on the patio could block the level access route to the Dental Surgery or force people with limited mobility close to the edge and the drop to park level.


The patio area is currently not lit and has no railing on it to prevent patrons falling off the side. There is bound to be occasional broken glassware in the area which could be a hazard to children and adults alike.



CRIME & DISORDER. 


A “drinking establishment”, however well managed, would seriously prejudice the amenity of the area for local residents. Anyone nearby is likely to be concerned about crime, disorder and antisocial behaviour.


We are aware of drug-related activity in the Riverside area. A pub packed with drinkers and a live band are surely ideal conditions for drug suppliers' trade to flourish.


 

PREVENTION OF PUBLIC NUISANCE.


The request for off sales is of great concern and must be opposed.  There is nothing in the application about controlling drinking outside and therefore the entire park could simply become an enormous unmonitored beer garden resulting in massive public nuisance and discarded glass and rubbish. This will present more potential danger to children and others underfoot.


The character of these premises seems designed to create public nuisance. The planning application 23/02307/CLPU makes clear that this is a “drinking establishment”, not some more sedate kind of business. The name of “The Dripping Tap” suggests non-stop drinking. The plan in the licence application shows a bar and cellar area, but no kitchen, so the effects of drinking will not be mitigated by the provision of food.


The plan also shows the large paved outside area as part of the application which implies that people will be drinking outside the building as well as inside. There is no suggestion in the licence application that staff will be managing this outside area, other than to prevent glass glasses and bottles. After a few drinks people become cheerful and noisy, and if they are doing this outside, it is certain to create a serious nuisance for nearby residents in this otherwise quiet area. 


With a turning-out time of 11pm, there will be ample opportunity for residents, many of whom on upper floors must sleep with windows open, to be disturbed and kept awake by voices raised in fun or in anger. In addition who pays for clearing up the detritus of the night before? 


The Licence Application states that doors will be kept closed to mitigate noise. This promise is simply not possible if people want to enter or leave - every time a door opens there will be a new barrage of noise.  Due to the corridor shape of some of the surrounding apartment blocks and the flat walls along Elizabeth Parade noise is likely to be exacerbated and travel around the site.


The closed doors will lead to a need for Air Conditioning (AC) causing a great deal more noise . Not only that, Riverside residents are not allowed to have AC vents on outside walls for aesthetic reasons: how would AC be installed? 


The venue will want tables and chairs outside so people will be drinking and smoking up to the Park edge, all day every day with music coming out of the venue right into the heart of a residential area and community park.  How could this venue bypass all the Park bylaws laid down on residents? 


No indication in the plan has been given to the signage the applicant will want to install and hence how much additional light pollution will be created. No additional light pollution should be allowed as part of this application.


PROTECTION OF CHILDREN


Dropped glass in the patio area and on the grass in the Park is a hazard to all, but particularly to small children.

Here is the submission from Lindsay Whitmore, chair of the Alexandra House Action Group.  You may copy all or some of this if you wish:


Objection Details:

Application number: 23/01428/LAPRE

Applicant’s name: The Thirsty Pine Ltd

Premises name and address:

Unit 2

Ground Floor

Royal View / Sovereign Point

Victoria Bridge Road

Westmoreland

Bath BA2 3GG


Application for a: New premises licence

Objector’s Name: Lindsay Whitmore

Objector’s Address:

## Alexandra House, Elizabeth Parade, BA2 3FY

Organisation name if applicable: Alexandra House Action Group


My/our representation is relevant to the following licensing objective(s):


Prevention of crime and disorder

Threat of escalation of drugs-related activity


Prevention of public nuisance

Noise pollution in a built up and otherwise residential area. Negative change to a space where children enjoy safe play and adults stroll and walk their dogs


Protection of children from harm

A residents’ park, a quiet and calm space where children play is an inappropriate place for a drinking establishment


Public safety

Heightened threat of falling into canal



Here is the RCV Submission:


Prevention of crime and disorder

 

There is a history of drug-related activity in the Riverside area. A pub packed with drinkers and a live band are surely ideal conditions for drug suppliers' trade to flourish. Disorderly conduct on leaving the pub is bound to occur from time to time.

 

Prevention of public nuisance

 

The plan in the licence application shows a bar and cellar area but no kitchen, so the effects of drinking will not be mitigated by the provision of food. The plan indicates that the outisde area will be used as part of the application. Noise therefore is certain to create a serious and unacceptable nuisance in this otherwise quiet area. Many residents must sleep with windows open because of the level of heat insulation in their houses or apartments. it is likely that many will be disturbed and kept awake by voices raised in fun or in anger at turning out time. The licence application states that doors and windows will be kept closed to mitigate noise. It will be impossible to keep the 4 sets of doors closed as people need to enter and leave. Every time a door opens, there will be a new barrage of noise. Due to the shape of surrounding apartment blocks and walls along Elizabeth Parade, noise is likely to be amplified and travel round the site.The venue will want tables and chairs outside, so people will be drinking and smoking up to the park edge all day, with music coming out of the venue right into the heart of this tranquil community park and residential area. All this is quite simply inappropriate.

 

Protection of children

 

Inevitably dropped glass in the patio area and on the grass by the park will present a hazard to all and particularly to small children.

 

Public safety

 

There have been numerous deaths over the years of people who have fallen into the Avon and have been unable to get out. This is a particular hazard on the footpath to the east of the proposed establishment where there are no safety barriers. Anyone who fell in there, particularly if inebriated or at night, would have little chance of survival.

 

Tables and chairs on the patio would impede level access to the proposed dental surgery or force people with limited mobility close to the edge and the drop to park level.

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